On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> > Richard, > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 3:51 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > >> >> On 01 Jan 2014, at 21:38, meekerdb wrote: >> >> On 1/1/2014 4:42 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> snip > > >> I disagree with this. Everett did propose a new theory. It is SWE, that >> is QM without collapse. *All* interpretations of it are multi-realities. >> Everett is just QM, and the Everett branches comes from not avoiding the >> contagion of superposition, which follows from SWE linearity. The >> existence of the relative superposition is a theorem of QM. Copenhagen is >> SWE+ collapse, and this is self-contradictory or quite fuzzy (what is the >> collapse?). >> >> >> It is changing your knowledge of the wave-function - replacing some >> uncertainty with some knowledge. >> >> >> Arguably so if the comp arithmetical quantum logic fits with the observed >> quantum logic. I do appreciate Pauli and Fuchs. Where I disagree, is that >> they oppose this to Everett, but I see no reason why. In fact Everett+Fuch >> is made consistent in the many-dreams interpretation of arithmetic, >> developed by the numbers inside arithmetic. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> Bruno, you may take this as a joke. >> > But I think that quantum state selection is like selected a sperm to enter > the egg. > In the dream space the most probably staets are clustered together, > And all together, like the intelligent sperm, > The states decide which state is selected > to enter the physical world.. > > > > I know that life is hard and that spermatozoids have a lot of hard time to > convince an ovule to let it go in. But "entering the physical world" does > not make much sense to me as there are no such "reality" in my favorite > theory. What exists in arithmetic is a notion of more probable > computations/consistent extensions, and the correct description of them > must give the laws of physics, so we can test the theory. > Thanks for letting me take your metaphor as a joke, you reassure me :) > > Bruno > > But Bruno, do you agree that my metaphor is arithmetically and > scientifically possible? > Richard > > > Richard > >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
