Der Bruno, The UD has no output. I guess you think to the trace of the UD, UD*, which from the first person perspective is "entirely given", by the 1p delay invariance."
The UD never stops. If a process lasts forever, it is eternal, then it does not ever complete and thus its results never obtain in any way that can be considered as accessible. On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 10 Jan 2014, at 22:57, meekerdb wrote: > > On 1/10/2014 1:34 AM, LizR wrote: > > On 10 January 2014 22:27, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I don't think that there can be a single or multiple processor >> computing "the state of the universe". In fact there is no such universe. >> The universe is an appearance emerging, from below the substitution level, >> on all computations going through our current state. A single computation >> can hardly do that a priori, although this is not excluded, but this would >> lead to a newtonian-like type of reality. Everett confirms that such a >> computation cannot be unique, which is the default stance in the comp >> theory, although we cannot avoid at this stage some possible conspiracy by >> numbers leading to a unique computable reality. >> >> Surely a single computer could run the UD, at least until it wore out? > > > As I understand it the multiverse, the world, is the complete output of > the UD. > > > ? > > The UD has no output. I guess you think to the trace of the UD, UD*, which > from the first person perspective is "entirely given", by the 1p delay > invariance. > > > In effect the UD must "finish" in order to have computed the world, > > > UD* is entirely given in the tiny sigma_1 block arithmetical reality. > > > > which of course is an uncomputable output. > > > It is not an output. The trace is computable. Only the FPI on that set of > computations is not computable. > > Bruno > > > > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/TBc_y2MZV5c/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 [email protected] http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
