Stephen,

It's amazing how much your mouth has to move to tell me it's not moving!

Edgar


On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:55:09 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
> Dear Edgar,
>
>   Bingo! You are correct. All motion in space-time is an illusion. The 
> ancient greeks figured that out already.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net<javascript:>
> > wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> If time doesn't move then nothing moves.
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:48:02 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
> Dear Edgar,
>
>   Time is not the movement of the hands or numbers of a clock, it is the 
> measure of the mapping between the positions of the hands. That is not 
> "motion", it is something else. Time does not move.
>  
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:45 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> "Time does not move"??? Even your clock knows better than that! And you 
> think my theories are weird!
>
>  Edgar
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:35:26 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
>  Dear Bot,
>
>   Time does not move. Please alert your programer that your libraries of 
> responses are failing to achieve the predicted response. Get new ones.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> c is actually the speed of TIME as the STc equation makes clear. It just 
> so happens that light, having no velocity in time, always travels at the 
> speed of time in all observers' frames thorough SPACE. All its spacetime 
> velocity is only through space.
>
> I didn't say anything travels faster than c. Why claim that?
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 7:14:56 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>
> Dear Edgar,
>
>   Your argument is based on a disconception of what the speed of light is! 
> Light -photons- do not "move" at all. They are the null length "rays" that 
> connect events together. Nothing can travel faster than c because to do so 
> would be traveling in less than zero distances.
>   A light cone is defined as those events that are "connected" by the null 
> rays. You really need to go back to the books and work the math to learn 
> and understand what it means. Books for laymen are only good for wetting 
> one's appetites for the real thing.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote:
>
> Brent,
>
> Bravo! Someone actually registered some of my arguments, though I would 
> state them slightly differently.
>
> The argument in question, that everyone except Brent seems to have missed, 
> is simple.
>
> SR requires that everything moves at the speed of light through spacetime. 
> This is NOT just "a useful myth", it's a very important fundamental 
> principle of reality (I call it the STc Principle).
>
> This is true of all motions in all frames. It's a universal absolute 
> principle.
>
> Now the fact that every
>
> ...

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