2014-02-11 3:59 GMT+01:00 meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net>: > On 2/10/2014 5:35 PM, LizR wrote: > > On 11 February 2014 13:42, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: > >> On 2/10/2014 1:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 10 Feb 2014, at 06:08, meekerdb wrote: >> >> On 2/9/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> Even on his argument, that nobody understand but him, against step 3? >> Then I invite you to attempt to explain it to us. >> >> >> >> I think I understand it. Asking the question "which will you be" in the >> MW experiment is ambiguous because "you" is duplicated. >> >> >> But that question is John Clark's invention. I never ask it. The >> question asked is about your FIRST PERSON expectation about 1-your future. >> It cannot be ambiguous when we assume comp. >> >> Sure it is. What does "your first person expectation" refer to. Does >> it ask what will your 1-p experience be? Or does it ask what is your 1-p >> feeling about where you will be? >> > > Consider a quantum measurement instead. Do we have an expectation of 1p > experience when we check if a photon's been reflected or transmitted? We > assign a probability to each outcome, surely? Why is Bruno's duplicator > different? > > > There are two different people you can ask, "How did the experiment come > out." >
There is also two people with MWI... the fact that they can meet change nothing (also we could setup the comp duplication experience to forbid completely the hypothetical meaning by reconstructing the W man 200 years later than the M man). Either the question is meaningful under MWI and comp duplication, either it is not meaningful in both case... what I see, is nobody is reluctant to use probabilities with MWI, so should they under comp duplication... Quentin > > > (We seem to have been around in a loop on this about 100 times...) > > > I agree and I'm willing to take it as hypothetical that it doesn't make a > difference, at least till I understand the whole argument. But I suspect > that it could. It might require that in step a whole world be created and > that I think could make a difference. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
