On 12 Feb 2014, at 02:02, Russell Standish wrote:

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 07:31:24PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote:

You are right, the qualia are in X1* \  X1, like we get quanta in
S4Grz1, Z1*, X1*.

The only thing you can say is that qualia ought to obey the axioms of
X1*\X1, (and even that supposes that Z captures all observations,
which I think is debatable),

By UDA, "p" to refer to a "physical certainty" needs to

1) UD generated (= sigma_1 arithmetical and true).
2) provable (true in all consistent extensions)
3) and non "trivially" provable (= there must be at least one consistent extension)

This give the []p & <>t, with p sigma_1.

So the logic of observable certainty should be given by the Z1* logic.



not that your model generates qualia, as
Liz was suggesting.
There may well be other things in X1*\X1 that are not qualia.

This is not a critique of you - I don't recall you ever claiming your
model "got qualia", I was mainly responding to Liz's comment of 11/2/14.


I think you might have taken Liz a bit too much literally. Perhaps.

Bruno




Cheers
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