Jesse, I haven't answered those questions out of any disrespect or rudeness but because I was working on a new explanation which I think does specifically address and answer all of them which I present in this post. I will be happy to answer any of your questions if you think they are still relevant after reading this post which I think solves the 1:1 age correlation to your satisfaction.
If you find any of the terminology confusing please let me know what you think it SHOULD be rather than just saying it's wrong. Twins A and B start at the same location in deep space. No acceleration, no gravitation. Their ages are obviously the same, and their age clocks are running at the same rate. They exchange flight plans and embark on their separate trips according to those flight plans. Now the only effects that will alter the rates of their age clocks are acceleration or gravitation. But each twin can continually measure the amount of acceleration or gravitation he experiences with a scale. So each twin can always calculate how much his age has slowed relative to what his age WOULD HAVE BEEN had he NOT experienced any gravitation or acceleration. Let's call that his 'inertial age', the age he WOULD have been had he NOT experienced any acceleration or gravitation. So each twin always knows what inertial age corresponds to his actual age. And because each twin has the exact flight plan of the other twin, he also can calculate what inertial age corresponds to the actual age of the other twin at any point on his trip because the flight plan tells him what all accelerations and gravitational effects will be. Thus it is a simple, frame independent matter for both twins to get a 1:1 correspondence between their respective actual ages in terms of their inertial ages since their inertial ages will always be the same. If A is age a' when his inertial age is I', and B is age a'' when his inertial age is I', then A will be actual age a' when B is actual age a'', and we can always establish such a 1:1 correspondence of actual ages for any actual age of either. And both twins will always AGREE on this 1:1 correlation of their actual ages. Note it is not even necessary to exchange flight plans. Each twin can just continually transmit a light signal to the other giving his current actual age in terms of his inertial age. That again allows both twins to correlate their actual ages. So this gives us a frame independent way for any two observers who initially synchronize their inertial ages to the same arbitrary value to always establish an UN-ambiguous, AGREED 1:1 correlation of their actual ages. Do you agree? Edgar On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:45:51 PM UTC-5, jessem wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> >> Can you agree to this at least? >> > > To repeat what I said in my second-to-last post: > > 'If you continue to ask me "Do you agree?" type questions while ignoring > the similar questions I ask you, I guess I'll have to take that as a sign > of contempt, in which case as I said I won't be responding to further posts > of yours. Any response is better than just completely ignoring questions, > even if it's something like "I find your questions ambiguous" or "you've > asked too many questions and I don't have time for them all right now, > please narrow it down to one per post".' > > If you decide to treat me with the same basic level of respect I have > treated you, rather than making a show of asking me questions while you > contemptuously ignore my requests that you address mine, then I will keep > going with this. If not, I have better things to do. > > Jesse > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
