Bruno, This is incorrect. We know truth by its consistency across scope. The universe is consistent. A person is part of the universe. People have no direct knowledge of the universe. They have only their internal mental simulation of the universe. To the extent that simulation is consistent they are able to live and function in a consistent universe. Consistency across maximum scope IS TRUTH.
In fact this is the fundamental principle of scientific method. If some aspect of scientific knowledge is NOT consistent with the rest then there is some error that is not truth somewhere. Correct the inconsistency and you come nearer to truth. Only when all inconsistency vanishes can complete truth be achieved. Edgar On Saturday, March 1, 2014 3:26:45 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 01 Mar 2014, at 06:23, Chris de Morsella wrote: > > > > >>> Or it comes from our conceptualizing the world as consisting of > >>> distinct > > objects and counting them, c.f. William S. Cooper "The Origin of > > Reason" and > > Lakoff and Nunez "Where Mathematics Comes From". > > > > In that case math would emerge from our conscious minds -- growing > > out of > > our making sense of the world. Is math the fundamental basis of > > reality, or > > is it an emergent phenomena? > > Chris > > In science we never know we get the truth, but we can reason from > assumption, and if you can agree with comp, if only for the sake of > the argument, you can understand that if comp is true then arithmetic, > or anything Turing equivalent, is enough, and that more is provably > redundant or wrong. > > I gave more that one TOE as examples. > > Bruno > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.