Bruno,

This is incorrect. We know truth by its consistency across scope. The 
universe is consistent. A person is part of the universe. People have no 
direct knowledge of the universe. They have only their internal mental 
simulation of the universe. To the extent that simulation is consistent 
they are able to live and function in a consistent universe. Consistency 
across maximum scope IS TRUTH.

In fact this is the fundamental principle of scientific method. If some 
aspect of scientific knowledge is NOT consistent with the rest then there 
is some error that is not truth somewhere. Correct the inconsistency and 
you come nearer to truth.

Only when all inconsistency vanishes can complete truth be achieved.

Edgar

On Saturday, March 1, 2014 3:26:45 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 01 Mar 2014, at 06:23, Chris de Morsella wrote: 
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> > 
> >>> Or it comes from our conceptualizing the world as consisting of   
> >>> distinct 
> > objects and counting them, c.f. William S. Cooper "The Origin of   
> > Reason" and 
> > Lakoff and Nunez "Where Mathematics Comes From". 
> > 
> > In that case math would emerge from our conscious minds -- growing   
> > out of 
> > our making sense of the world. Is math the fundamental basis of   
> > reality, or 
> > is it an emergent phenomena? 
> > Chris 
>
> In science we never know we get the truth, but we can reason from   
> assumption, and if you can agree with comp, if only for the sake of   
> the argument, you can understand that if comp is true then arithmetic,   
> or anything Turing equivalent, is enough, and that more is provably   
> redundant or wrong. 
>
> I gave more that one TOE as examples. 
>
> Bruno 
>
>
> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ 
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