Dear Telmo, Those truths that are often the hardest to learn require the most painful of lessons.
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>wrote: > sex orientation can not be changed, neither a matrimony can be other than > a man and a woman, neither climate can be changed by little ants like us, > neither internationalism can be a genuine feeling, neither supranational > identities can be fabricated, neither woman can live without depending on > ideas and societies essentially made by men. Neither abortion can be > promoted without immense pain in women for the assassination of his > child. > > But that does not mean that a bunch of autonsanctified international > delinquents can not make a living from idiots that believe in the idea that > "things are gonna change" "another world is possible" and "a catastrophe is > coming and we will not survive if the world do not do X" where X is > invariably something very painful that demand a lot of concentrated power > in a central elite. > > > In the same way that 80 years of mass killings demonstrated that an > economy can not be centrally planified, we are gonna suffer another cycle > of wrong ideas thanks to the new generation of idiots and their shepherds > > > > 2014-04-10 12:51 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>: > > >> >> >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Stephen Paul King < >> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: >> >>> Read Corona's post carefully. >>> >> >> I did, and I find his general ideas interesting and worth considering. I >> don't quire agree that space exploration cannot compete with religion. When >> I was growing up, I was forced to go to catholic sunday school, and at the >> same time I was obsessed with space exploration. The former just bore me to >> tears, while the second gave me feelings of human transcendence. This video >> still works better for me than all of the religious attempts at showing the >> divine: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoNITE-CLc >> >> It is sad that we are currently regressing in many ways. We lost the >> ability to do what that video shows, when we should be doing even more >> amazing things, and eventually starting colonising other worlds. We are >> also regressing in social ways, with the return of police states in the >> west and so on. I don't think that's a coincidence. I hope it's a bump in >> the road. >> >> On the other hand, we expanded inwards with the Internet. I believe we >> still just saw the beginning of the transformative power of the Internet >> and the things it will enable. The ones in power sense this too, and they >> are fighting it. At the moment we seem to be heading in the direction of >> some cyberpunk dystopia. >> >> But back to the gay issue. If the assumption is that "gay promotion" is >> part of a strategy to reduce the population, then that's just silly. If >> anything, allowing gays to marry and be parents and adopt is only >> increasing the carrying capacity of our environment. >> >> Telmo. >> >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Stephen Paul King < >>>> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Telmo, >>>>> >>>>> It isn't moralism if it has a measure that can be objectively >>>>> defined. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Stephan, >>>> >>>> Could you tell me what measure you are referring to? >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Telmo Menezes >>>>> <te...@telmomenezes.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Alberto G. Corona < >>>>>> agocor...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 7 April 2014 15:47, Stephen Paul King < >>>>>>>>> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Liz, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why is there no interest in developing tech to get us off the >>>>>>>>>> planet? Why is there a retreat into a bunker mentality? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The reason why the UN promotes Global Warming+ abortion+ feminism+ >>>>>>> Gay promotion instead of international collaboration for space >>>>>>> exploration >>>>>>> and expansion has some reasons: >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Come on man, you say interesting things but then you get stuck in >>>>>> weird religious moralism. What does "gay promotion" even mean? People >>>>>> can't >>>>>> change their sexual orientation. It's not like you can make some ads or >>>>>> have celebrity endorsements and the kids will be all "ohh cool, I'm going >>>>>> to be gay!". I think what's happening here is that we are finally getting >>>>>> rid of gay repression. There's not going to be a different percentage of >>>>>> gay people one way or the other, just less people leading miserable lives >>>>>> for no good reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> first: any menace related with resources and population is easier >>>>>>> to sell I will not name Hitler, but they are instinctive concerns since >>>>>>> we >>>>>>> were stone age hunter gatherers. The hunter gatherers were after wild >>>>>>> animals and wild plants. They did not produced animals and plants as we >>>>>>> produce now. So their primitive mind of "limited resources" is in the >>>>>>> modern man, despite our hability to reproduce and substitute resources >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> our knowledge. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 30.000 years ago, my province was inhabited with 3000 people that >>>>>>> depleted complely the resources and had to move to another place every >>>>>>> year. Now we are 3.000.000 in the same area, mostly unhabited still. An >>>>>>> yet >>>>>>> we live better, there are probably more wild animals and more forest. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But still there are stone-age minded people that ate human beings >>>>>>> and "want to save the planet". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> second: space exploration can not qualify for a religion, at least, >>>>>>> not as a totalitarian religion. The Cult to the earth and human >>>>>>> sacrifices >>>>>>> will ever qualify since it is the most primitive religion. Leaders want >>>>>>> commited people and this inevitably demand sacrifices, due to the >>>>>>> nature of >>>>>>> beings with incomplete information. I explained it in this thread as >>>>>>> well >>>>>>> as others in this group. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Alberto. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in >>>>>> the Google Groups "Everything List" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/-LyjqBLxxFY/unsubscribe >>>>>> . >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>>>>> everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com >>>>>> . >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Kindest Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Stephen Paul King >>>>> >>>>> Senior Researcher >>>>> >>>>> Mobile: (864) 567-3099 >>>>> >>>>> stephe...@provensecure.com >>>>> >>>>> http://www.provensecure.us/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use >>>>> of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain >>>>> information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and >>>>> exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as >>>>> attorney work product. 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