On 29 Apr 2014, at 12:00, Samiya Illias wrote:
An interesting conversation:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/feeling-our-emotions/?page=1
Bruno, can this be developed in a machine?
I agree with large parts of Damasio, and disagree on others. Alas, he
is still not aware of the consequence of mechanism, (like most brain
scientists), and I disagree with his interpretation of Descartes (but
that is another topic).
Yes, we are driven by emotion. The "intellect" is a recent development
in our history. It is the passage from "eaten or to be eaten" to "to
be or not to be".
Keep in mind that computationalism is the assumption that *you* are
already a machine, and so, trivially, comp takes into account all your
emotion. If you survive a teleportation, but would lose your emotion,
comp would be false. By definition, your entire mental universe,
including faith, emotion, reason, ... is preserved.
The body ([]p) is only a finite local representation of "you", but
"you" comes as much from the truth than from that self-representation.
Personal consciousness, the maker of sense, start from the
intersection of truth and "bodily-beliefs": the "[]p & p".
Consciousness is semantical, and is more on the side of p, in the "[]p
& p". Somehow, the intellect (mind, machine) []p is a filter of that
consciousness "p".
"emotion" is our oldest language, with a quick evaluation of the
adequacy of a chemical environment. Our olfactive neurons have special
relationship with the region of the brain related to emotions, which
witness that fact, and people know how much a smell can trigger
souvenir charged with emotion.
This is also well illustrated in the following video. Although the
paramecia are a bit slow figuring what happened, they got eventually
the point; probably not in the shape "Gosh I am eaten by an amoeba",
but more something like "I don't want to be here and I have to try to
escape at all cost".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvOz4V699gk
Bruno
Samiya
MIND: Do you believe that we will someday be able to create
artificial consciousness and feelings?
Damasio: An organism can possess feelings only when it can create a
representation of the body's functions and the related changes that
occur in the brain. In this way, the organism can perceive them.
Without this mechanism there would be no consciousness. It is
unclear that this could ever develop in a machine or whether we
really want machines with feelings.
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