On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 09:23:44AM -0700, John Ross wrote: > The alpha particle is comprised of four protons repelling each other while > circling in a tight circle and two electrons looping through the circular > path of the protons. The four protons are attracted to the two electrons. > The Coulomb forces from the two electrons are effective in keeping the > protons circling. >
OK lets start with this model. Two electrons do not provide sufficient screening to turn the repulsive Coulomb force into an attractive one. And attractive it must be - alpha particles are one of the most stable forms of matter in the universe, with the release of its binding energy being what powers the sun, hydrogen bombs and so on. So can you give a rough explanation as to how your theory explains this binding energy? Does your theory distinguish between a helium atom and a deuterium molecule? It would appear that 4 electrons and 4 protons are involved in both cases, according to your theory, yet chemically they couldn't be more different. And why does it require enormous forces to turn one into the other? "Tight circle" implies a 2 dimensional geometry, which obviously breaks the normal 3D rotational symmetry. In which direction is this axis of rotation pointed in a typical alpha particle? Is it aligned with the particle's direction of travel, or perpendicular to it? BTW - the traditional explanation of all of this has the neutrons and protons exchanging charged gluons, causing each hadron to exist in a superposition of proton and neutron states. But exchanging particles in this way is effectively force, and traditionally this force is called the strong force, which is what you're trying to deny. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
