The reason why the proton is about 1836 times as massive as the electron is because the proton in its natural state is comprised of an electron (that has captured the neutrino entron portion of a neutrino photon,which has a mass of 1.65 X 10-27 kg) plus two positrons. The nucleus of hydrogen atoms is a little more massive because it has captured 8.37 MeV of gamma ray photons which are incorporated into the nucleus as neutrino entrons. Some of these gamma ray entrons are released as gamma ray photons in fusion reactions. The neutrino entron is released as a neutrino photon when protons are destroyed by combining with anti-protons in Black Holes to provide galactic gravity. Neutrons are very unstable because they are a proton and an electron plus 9.1585 MeV of gamma ray entrons. Some of these gamma ray entrons are releases as gamma ray photons when the neutron decays to an electron and a proton.
From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:51 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES On 5/22/2014 3:23 PM, LizR wrote: On 23 May 2014 08:57, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: On 5/22/2014 12:59 PM, John Clark wrote: Why not? No physicist is going to take your theory seriously or even call it a theory if you can't calculate with it, if you can't get numbers out of it so it can be checked with observation. Why is the proton 1836 times as massive as the electron? Why is the neutron almost the same but not quite, why is it 1842 times as massive as the electron? Why do independent protons have a half life of an infinite number of minutes but independent neutrons have a half life of 10 minutes 11 seconds? See, JKC knows why the world of physics is described by mathematics - no other kind of description is as explicit and predictive. I'm still not convinced that it isn't "out there" though. Anyone who became interested in the same mathematical problems would get the same answers, as far as I can see, regardless of whether they are living in a universe with protons 1836 times as massive as electrons, or one made of completely different constituents. I want a more convincing answer for why maths kicks back than all this vague hand wavy stuff - yes it's explicit and predictive, but why? Why does it work? It still seems unreasonably effective to me. Maybe it's just a difference of perspective. Einstein said, "The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible." Given that it's comprehensible, that it is described by mathematics seems completely unsurprising. So the unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics just derives from there being some regularities in the universe - not that it is completely regular or lawlike; we pass off a lot of stuff as "randomness" or "geography". I had this argument with Vic Stenger when he was writing "The Comprehensible Cosmos" because he wanted to say that every 'law' of physics was just a realization of physicists insistence that their descriptions of nature must be point-of-view invariant. And indeed it made a very nice summary of modern physics. But I pointed out that it was a fairly flexible formula because you had to chose what variable was to be invariant and under what transformation. So maybe the existence of such variables and formula is "unreasonable" - or maybe it's implied by some combination of Bruno's UD and anthropic selection. Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
