On 8 June 2014 22:30, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:12 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 8 June 2014 15:43, spudboy100 via Everything List <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I do know what I am criticizing, and view Marx and Engels claims in
>>> Manifesto, and Das Kapital as nothing more than deliberate lies to defer
>>> just criticism, especially, when viewed in the light of Marx and Engels,
>>> quotes, journals, and articles. The withering away concept was deliberately
>>> used as sop, to those who Marx knew would grow weary of state oppression.
>>> Just a little longer and then it will be perfect, everyone will be a
>>> Barron, and master of their own world. The Castro regime still uses it as
>>> an excuse for economic stagnation. As C. Northcoate Parkinson said, "Delay
>>> is the most deadly form of denial."
>>
>>
>> OK, I take it back. That's a valid viewpoint. (I don't know if there is
>> evidence to support it?)
>>
>
> I would say that this viewpoint is validated empirically: all attempts at
> marxist societies devolved into authoritarianism.
>

And Marx would have know that how, exactly?

The claim is that Marx and Engels "used the withering away concept as a
sop" because Marx "knew people would grow weary of state oppression" (see
quote above).

That is the claim I am asking for evidence for.

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