On 30 Jun 2014, at 20:53, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Thinking that atheism could be bad, is like believing that red hair
is a sign of the devil.
The problem of atheism, is that it is
- either scientifically trivial (santa klaus does not exist),
- or a religion in disguise (a primitive physical universe exists and
is exclusively what explains all the rest).
Red hair, like atheism, is a difference without a distinction. Not,
on the other hand is it axiomatically, the sign of a great mind. If
Tyson is, it's of little concern, unless one is in it for gossip.
Then it becomes compelling. Was it the writer, Truman Capote who
said, "there are three great things in the world, religion, science,
and gossip."
As for me, I am often quite envious of people who are atheists, not
for the brilliance of their thoughts, but for the cocksure, self-
confidence, and their apparent ability to be matter of fact in how
they deal with the great turbulence of the Human Condition. By the
way,.this is the first time I have use the phrase, cocksure, in a
sentence. Anyway,.it's something.I admire, unlike when they.chose to
egg on the Jesus people, when the Islamistand roll red with blood
and severed body parts. This, I find objectionable, even though I am
not a Christian. But I still admire the Atheists sureity.
Atheism, as I know it, is a slight variant of christianism. They share
basically the same "creation" (matter), and the same God (even if the
atheist defends that God just to deny its existence).
That hides the real deep question: is reality WYSIWYG? or is it that
what we see is only the border of a much vaster "volume"?
Bruno
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From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: 30-Jun-2014 14:01:14 +0000
Subject: Re: Tyson is not atheist (was Re: So, a new kind of non-
boolean, non-digital, computer architecture
On 29 Jun 2014, at 23:19, Kim Jones wrote:
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>> On 29 Jun 2014, at 7:19 pm, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
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>> I think it is more related with ego-psychological issue than with
>> the matter subject.
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>> Bruno
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> Precisely. Which is why you will understand that to respond any
> further to the belligerence of his posts is merely an invitation to
> do battle with his ego rather than to seriously explore the subject?
> Each post is a trap that he has laid, a bait. Do not take the
hameçon.
I appreciate John Clark effort. he is probably the only detractor of
the UDA that I know doing this openly and publicly. It is far more
respectable than any others, which I got only reports by some wutness
that they said something negative, always behind the back. I have
never met detractors. Academically, I met only enthusiasm, except form
those people who told me that there Gödel's theorem was not
interesting and who like to mock computer scientists (those guys too
much stupid to do pure mathematics), and which demolished me before I
could even met them.
Then Clark is more and more clear, making his mistakes more and more
clear too. And I progress on this somehow delicate point.
I think John Clark is not completely hopeless .He understood all the
points but still go out of the body in the duplication, and refuse to
consider the (many) copies *first person experience*.
It is still a bit of a mystery why he seems to avoid that.
Bruno
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