On 1/3/2015 9:30 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 03 Jan 2015, at 06:28, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:

*From:*everything-list@googlegroups.com <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>[mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com]*On Behalf Of*Kim Jones
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*Subject:*Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"

On 1 Jan 2015, at 2:52 pm, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

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    *Subject:*Re: "Animals think like autistic humans"
    On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote:

>>You seem to be saying that we can do nothing new about thinking.
No, not that at all. I am saying that first we need to understand what thinking really is and move beyond our primitive anthropocentric views that have come to us from our past. We have a long heritage of thinking about what thinking is, so lots of material to draw from. The more humbly we come to understand that our self-aware inner dialogue is the mind’s (simplified and summarized) narration of a deeper and much vaster non verbalized intelligence which is that which is doing the individuals **thinking**

OK, but then you can't stop the descend and you will need to say that the thinking is done by the arithmetical realizations, but that is 3p descriptible (even if infinite) so something has gone wrong (we get trapped in a cinfusion between the 3p, []p, and the 1p, []p &p).

What's wrong with being 3p describable (aside from mystic prejudices)?

Brent

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