From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 4:30 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: "Animals think like autistic humans" On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote: Thinking, however, is a highly evolved skill of many parts involving values and beliefs and motivations and agendas and theories and risk-taking. Lifting a cup to your lips to swallow a liquid requires no thinking. The skill is embedded since infancy, so it is with savants. But there's not a sharp distinction. Many skills must be developed thoughtfully and then they can become automatic. Riding a bicycle is the paradigmatic case, but it probably applies to drinking from cup too. Taking what Brent said a step further; there is no clear sharp line for thinking itself! The mind/brain is far more extended than the self-aware voice boxes we all inhabit… looking out from within. Lifting the cup to drink may not require conscious thought, after it has been learned, but watch an infant try to do it their first times and witness a conscious struggle as the wee little young forebrain neural synaptic dynamic circuitry tries to coordinate that human mastered trick of life. When we speak of “thinking” it is incumbent to remain clear that the mind is far greater than the conscious tip we are conscious about. Our self-aware conscious selves, in many cases, can be shown to only become aware of events and decisions, measurably lagging behind preceding bursts of neural activity lighting up in glorious cascades of network activity within the mind/brain. How much of our thinking makes it to the level of the executive self-narrating forebrain centered self awareness; versus how much of life’s thinking and executive decisions, including complex algorithmic tasks – such as drinking from a cup – are instead performed without bothering the self-aware {sub-part} of the larger mind/brain/organism. -Chris Brent The nipple is the only truly intuitive interface. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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