On 12/31/2014 5:52 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
On 1 Jan 2015, at 11:30 am, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
<mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:
On 12/31/2014 4:00 PM, Kim Jones wrote:
Thinking, however, is a highly evolved skill of many parts involving values and
beliefs and motivations and agendas and theories and risk-taking. Lifting a cup
to your lips to swallow a liquid requires no thinking. The skill is embedded
since infancy, so it is with savants.
But there's not a sharp distinction.
Does there have to be? Must Nature make sharp distinctions to please Man? Perception is
data-gathering, thinking is data-processing. There. Howzat? Seems pretty razor-sharp to
me....
Seems like identifying black and white and ignoring grey. Is riding a bicycle
data-gathering/perception or is it data-processing/intelligence? I'd say it's both.
Many skills must be developed thoughtfully and then they can become automatic.
Yes. A skill is learnt consciously over time to create the algorithm which is like
feeling your way into it. But the skill is then increasingly applied automatically,
routinely, instinctively, reflexively - it's downshifted in terms of the neuronal
loading required to activate the pattern. There is - if you prefer 'first stage'
thinking and 'second stage' thinking. The difference between recognising something and
deciding what to do about it if we want to boil it down.
That boils it down too far. What to do about something can be automatic too, and in many
cases it needs to be. Sports are a good example. Most of what you do has to be automatic.
Riding a bicycle is the paradigmatic case, but it probably applies to drinking from
cup too.
Absolutely.
No one ever learnt to ride a bike with an instruction manual in one hand.
You get on the bike you fall off the bike. You get on the bike you fall off the
bike. You get on the bike you fall off the bike. You get on the bike you fall off the
bike. You get on the bike you stay on the bike, you etc...
I think we are here right up against (once again, sigh) intelligence and competency. The
better you are at a skill, the more competent you are (at that skill, possibly in other
ways if there is transferability of that skill). You no longer need to think about it.
Intelligence (speed of pattern recognition) not necessary or less necessary.
?? Now you identify intelligence with recognition - while above you seemed to contrast
perception with thinking. What's that last sentence supposed to be?
Brent
K
Brent
The nipple is the only truly intuitive interface.
Also the very first. All other subsequent interfaces in life are therefore required to
exhibit "nipple-like" intuitiveness in their design. Basically the goal of life is to be
on the tit in some sense.
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