On 04 Jan 2015, at 18:38, John Clark wrote:

On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 'Roger' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com > wrote:

> Even if the word "exists" has no use because everything exists, it seems important to know why everything exists.

Even if the word "klogknee" has no use because everything is klogknee, is it important to know why everything is klogknee?

That would made "existence" into a property, which is something usually avoided (in logic and in metaphysics). It leads to confusion between level and metalevel.

Of course, not everything exists. Some thing does not exist, like a couple of non null integers x y verifying
2 *( y^2) = x^2.




> How is it that a thing can exist?

How is it that a thing can be klogknee? Before you can figure that out you must first know what "klogknee" means, and if everything is klogknee then you don't know because meaning needs contrast.

> What I suggest is that a grouping defining what is contained within is an existent entity.

I don't understand that.

It is a ciomprehension axiom the set of x such that P(x) exists. Of course if P(x) is "x does not belong to x", we get Russell's paradox, and Frege abandoned his theory when discovering this. Then Zermelo found the way to restrict the comprehension axioms to make it consistent, and this led to set theories like ZF or NBG.

The idea is to restrict the set {x such that P(x)} by some already existing set, like the set of x in y such that P(x).

Bruno




  John K Clark





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