On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:15 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Seconded (I am allowed to say that, right?)
>
> Of course it isn't just France. And some countries go one step further and
> actively brainwash their citizens from an early age into thinking they are
> wonderful, and thus try to prevent even the possibility of "thoughtcrime".
>

I completely agree with you and Chris on this.

The tragic thing for me, as an European, is that the USA were the ones
leading the way in terms of free speech. Europe never adopted something as
strong as the first amendment. Europeans love to say the "free speech has
its limits", which is a nonsensical, in my opinion.

I always assume that Europe would catch up with the USA on this.
Unfortunately, it seems that the opposite is happening.


>
> On 18 January 2015 at 17:06, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <
> everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> It is sad to see, for France has such a heritage, but it seems there is
>> diminishing actual functioning Free Speech rights in France; when scores of
>> people are getting arrested and thrown into jail for unpopular free speech,
>> which in France has now become the new Orwellian thought crime of
>> “supporting terrorism”.
>>
>> Either Free Speech applies to all; or it does not apply. If unpopular –
>> and even repugnant -- free speech is punished with long jail terms; then
>> the state sanctioned mechanisms are in place for destroying effective right
>> of free speech, which soon becomes free only when it reflects the desire of
>> those who rule.
>>
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