From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Forget ball games. I wager that when the jihadists strike here in either a
series of small attacks or another 911, your side, for coddling the jihadists
will be held to account. And, sadly, people will say, "At least under Bush we
felt safe."
Like any good fascist you take your propagandist tactics right from Goebbels
playbook. Just because I don't want get with your insane genocidal clash of
civilizations program does not mean that therefore I am "coddling" jihadist
criminals. Screw you and your attempt to pin responsibility on me -- and
everyone who does not buy into your extremist world views - for the acts of
violent criminals.
If you really believe your own invective then you should be going off yourself
to fight your crusade... why aren't you? Are you a coward? Who demands others
go do the dying for your psychopathic desires
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From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
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Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 7:21 pm
Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point of
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From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
>>Hmmm! Then you have wasted your companie's, valuable time bantering with
>>someone you don't like and can't control? Some software schmuck, you must be.
>>Where are your ethics, man? Oh, wait, I take that back, for most progressives
>>do not possess this attribute, only the hunger to control. Well, mah trailer
>>needs propane re-fuelin' and I gotta git down to thuh liquer store before
>>mama june kills me. Wee dawgies! Now yew git on and a keep a cod'in and
>>developin' whatever that is? P.S, the seahawks suck and the pats will roll
>>over yer candy asses. What do yew and the Pats have in common? Ansdwer:
>>Deflated balls. Bwah hah hah hah! Even Mama June bust out laffin at that wun.
>>Why would my company care if I take a few minutes here and there during the
>>day? It knows -- from working deployed, low defect, high performant software
>>-- that it gets excellent value from my services, which is why it continues
>>to have me (and others like me) fulfill them. This is also why the globally
>>preeminent technology companies I work for DO NOT -- AND WILL NEVER -- higher
>>incompetent angry windbags like you... who have an overblown sense of their
>>own entitlement coupled with a lack of any valuable real skills. You have
>>nothing of any value to exchange; your labor is just not worth very much to
>>them.
P.S. The Seahawks won the game and are going to the Super Bowl. Spectacular
last five minutes and over time play on that game.
But... Hey there goober, isn't it time for you to mosey on down to see if your
(government) check is in the mail box (delivered to you by our socialist mail
service).
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From: spudboy100 via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
>>Nupe. Basically you are explaining away the election losses and the endless
>>trail of middle class taxpayer dollars, to the blue state governments, their
>>government unions, and the underclass, who is content with Mexican
>>billionaire and Obola contributor, Carlos Slim Helu's cheapo chump trak
>>phones, welfare checks, food stamps, ghettos, hoods, and barrios. What has
>>changed is that from a political studies pov, enough of the demographic of
>>the white middle and working classes, who want to work (unlike your crack and
>>meth head friends), realize they have gotten burned bad, by a political class
>>that is neither interested in their financial well being, nor their physical
>>safety, from your Islamic State sympathizers, like yourself. I see a time,
>>fairly soon, when a plurality of American residents, whether legally here or
>>not will say to themselves, "at least under Bushie I felt safe!" I probably
>>care for the Bushes in US politics on a scale somewhat less then yourself
>>(hard to say since your progie derangement must make cognitive thinking
>>difficult at best for you), but based on what is happening overseas, this day
>>will arrive. Keep on strumming your guitar dude, its supposedly therapeutic.
Don't have the time (nor the desire) to respond to your delusional oxycontin
fueled rant in detail -- because like most progressives -- I am at work,
earning money for my family to live on. Not all of us can be Tea Party welfare
queens.
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From: 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
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Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 3:50 pm
Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point of
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Anyone can look up the facts (over the last few election cycles). If you add up
all Blue states in one column and all red states in another column the blue
column of states turns out to be a net contributor to the federal revenue; the
red states are net recipients of federal tax dollars. Such simple mathematical
averaging may be beyond your Tea Party math skills however; so I can recognize
why you are struggling with this... as with so many concepts that require some
actual thinking.This pattern also holds when you do more micro analysis at the
zipcode level. The net result is that it is blue America that is actually
paying the bills, and working to make our country prosper; while it is red
America that is doing the whining and demanding war.... while living off of
those government checks.... like welfare queens. The Tea Party hates the hand
that is feeding it, which you got to admit is fairly ironic.Oh, and Mitch it is
turkeys like you that are getting stuffed... I know it makes you mad as hell.
Take some personal responsibility to better your own life; it is not the fault
of Islam or of those Mexicans laborers either that you find yourself so
marginalized.-Chris
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Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point of
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The state thing shows how fanatically blind you really are. Illinois,
prospering, and how's Detroit faring in Michigan? NY state rolling in cash?
Connecticut cashing in big? What about Red State cash flow? Texas, yes indeed,
the Dakotas, yep, so your hyperthyroid statements are specious, at best. Under
your gawd, Bamer, the rich have gotten so much richer, and they poor get
cellphones. Splendid! Also, if your godling is doing so great, then why ask for
320 billion more for the federal budget? This will be in his state of
destruction message tomorrow night. Most blue state peoples are now leaving for
the South economically speaking where jobs are to be had, because or
conservative fiscal practices, which sorry to tell you, actually work. Now this
is for them blueboys that actually want to work. Many who stay, are your kind
of people, meth heads that steal from their grandma's so as to feed their
habit. That sad fact has become kind of common in dear old Washington state,
hasn't it? Lastly, Bamer protects the super rich in both parties, so there's
your oligarchy. The welfare statement is your attempt at humor, or are you
really this delusional in real life? If anything, conservatives want to cut
welfare rolls, while the progressive party views then as captive voters who are
dependent on the graciousness of you fascists, so as to ensure the ballot
boxers get stuffed. Speaking of getting stuffed, why don't you?
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Subject: RE: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point of
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Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point of
view Based on the US experience, the sales pitch that all is wonderful has
failed and keeps failing, simply because the selling doesn't live up to
reality. In the US we used to call this, Wrapping yourself up in the flag." Or
as the British Dr. Johnson once wrote, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a
scoundrel." In the US we have added an amended version of Doc Johnson's
statement, which is, "Calling racism is the new last refuge of a scoundrel."
Case in point is the reverend Al Sharpton who call racism at every junction and
if there isn't anything to talk about like a police killing, he will make one
up out of whole cloth, as he did with the Tawanna Brawley incident years ago.
He tends to take huge sums from big corporations so as to avoid picketing and
protestors outside company headquarters. Needless to state, it has been
profitable for him, personally, without changing the corporate climate or the
number of black American's actually hired. As far as freedom goes, most people
in the US only care about it when its restricted for themselves, and, in any
case, most have zero to really say. The US is the same country whose voters
would sell their votes for free cell phones, food stamps (subsidized
purchases), and fatter welfare checks. I don't see this changing anytime soon
and do expect Mama Clinton, in the US to win the presidency in 2016. This
stream of “consciousness” of yours provides a fascinating window into the
discombobulated processes at work in your brain, as it fires on all four
cylinders. It seems like you are trying to say something important, but are
having a lot of trouble forming cogent opinions. Perhaps if instead of spending
all these years angry at all those identifiable “other” people for having
“robbed” you of the life you “were entitled” to, you had instead done something
about it to improve your own skills you would be better off. You Tea Party
types always blaming other people for your ills… and never doing anything of
substance to take personal responsibility.As I pointed out the Blue states are
the states that are actually paying for the government; we are net
contributors. On average Red states depend on federal government largesse; e.g.
a bunch of welfare recipients. -----Original Message-----
From: Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>
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Sent: Mon, Jan 19, 2015 1:30 pm
Subject: Re: Free Speech is not Free unless it is allowed for every point of
view On Sun, Jan 18, 2015 at 10:15 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote:Seconded
(I am allowed to say that, right?) Of course it isn't just France. And some
countries go one step further and actively brainwash their citizens from an
early age into thinking they are wonderful, and thus try to prevent even the
possibility of "thoughtcrime". I completely agree with you and Chris on this.
The tragic thing for me, as an European, is that the USA were the ones leading
the way in terms of free speech. Europe never adopted something as strong as
the first amendment. Europeans love to say the "free speech has its limits",
which is a nonsensical, in my opinion. I always assume that Europe would catch
up with the USA on this. Unfortunately, it seems that the opposite is
happening.
On 18 January 2015 at 17:06, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
<everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:It is sad to see, for France has such
a heritage, but it seems there is diminishing actual functioning Free Speech
rights in France; when scores of people are getting arrested and thrown into
jail for unpopular free speech, which in France has now become the new
Orwellian thought crime of “supporting terrorism”.Either Free Speech applies to
all; or it does not apply. If unpopular – and even repugnant -- free speech is
punished with long jail terms; then the state sanctioned mechanisms are in
place for destroying effective right of free speech, which soon becomes free
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