On 19 Jan 2015, at 19:40, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>
wrote:
On 18 Jan 2015, at 20:42, meekerdb wrote:
On 1/18/2015 6:26 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
With the definition you gave in a preceding post, and with which I
agree, everyone believe in some God. The question is always: which
one? And where it does come from, and why.
All philosophers and most scientists have some idea about what is
fundamental reality - but (unless they are theologians) they
recognize it is just a working hypothesis. I'd say most people
don't even think about it enough to have a definite opinion.
Well, it might be about time. Many people don't think to this,
because we abandonned the subject to professional brainwashers since
a long time.
Most people are just not interested in fundamental science. Usually
people like to take things for granted, and dislike doubting
everything, as Descartes knew already we have to do if we search
truth.
The more I think about it, the more I doubt that these subjects were
simply "abandoned" in an innocent fashion. The problem is that
beliefs about fundamental reality are at the foundations of
political power, and the powerful know this, even if only intuitively.
Yes, since always. That is why we are mucky to be in a place where
scientists have regained some freedom in some domain, but clearly not
in all (theology and human science are still not done with the
scientific attitude).
When atheist politicians say that we must respect the Vatican, they
are agreeing on some border of power. They are saying, ok we can't
have absolute power but we can negotiate peace with the Vatican.
Vatican and bishops love atheism, because atheists are their allies in
preventing seriousness in theological matter.
The subtlety is that there is now a very powerful religion which has
no name but is profoundly materialistic. I think you intuit its
existence, and were perhaps a victim of it, by the suppression of
your thesis.
The original atheists were themselves victim of manipulations, but
then they have gotten more than 30 years to apologize and admits the
facts, but they have aggravated it by suppressing the thesis, and
defaming it up to the point of making the prize I got in Paris
disappear.
Bruno
Telmo.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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