On 03 Feb 2015, at 07:01, meekerdb wrote:

I think "conscious" is ambiguous. From what I've read the two halves of the split brain are not both conscious in the sense of having an internal narrative; only one half is verbal.

The "[]p" half.



Both halves are conscious in the sense of processing information and influencing action - as my dog is conscious and Bruno's jumping spider are conscious.

OK. But non verbal consciousness is quite important, and much more primitive, it is the p which becomes []p.

Note that child with one one half brain develops normally. The remaining half brain build again an opposition between []p and []p & p.

On adults, this operation is much more debilitating I think, and the pole []p / p can make years to take form, if ever. The subject can become hemi-negligent (but I am not sure).

Bruno



Brent

On 2/2/2015 9:41 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
What are your thoughts on split brains which develop two independently conscious minds?

We're they always two minds, or do they become such when they can't communicate?

Jason

On Monday, February 2, 2015, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On 2/2/2015 8:37 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
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> You can no more assume those other parts of your brain are unconscious than you can assume other beings lack consciousness. You might even have solved it consciously but are amnesiac about it.
>
> Poincare's unconscious was pretty smart, it could prove theorems his consciousness couldn't. So JKC would say that proves his unconscious was conscious. I think that's what Bruno calls []f.
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> I infer (not assume) other beings are conscious because they are very similar to me and act like I act when I'm conscious. Pieces of brain don't look much like me and they don't act like me.
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> Brent
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