On 16 Apr 2015, at 08:16, Bruce Kellett wrote:
LizR wrote:
On 16 April 2015 at 15:37, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au
<mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
Bruno has said to me that one cannot refute a scientific finding
by
philosophy. One cannot, of course, refute a scientific observation
by philosophy, but one can certainly enter a philosophical
discussion of the meaning and interpretation of an observation. In
an argument like Bruno's, one can certainly question the
metaphysical and other presumptions that go into his discourse.
Yes, of course. I don't think anyone is denying that - quite the
reverse, people who argue /against /Bruno often do so on the basis
of unexamined metaphysical assumptions (like primary materialism)
And the contrary, that primary materialism is false, is just as much
an unevidenced metaphysical assumption.
Are you doing this on purpose?
The fact that primary materialism is epistemologically contradictory
is the *result* of the UD Argument (UDA).
It is not an assumption. It is what the whole UDA reasoning is for.
You assume a primary physical universe. You have to explain how
primary matter makes it possible for a machine to distinguish a
physical computation from an arithmetical one, and this without
abandoning comp, to make your point.
Bruno
Bruce
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