Boltzmann will return as a Boltzmann Brain. Nietzsche, screams from the grave, 
"Ach! the Eternal Return!, but you will not remember your previous existence!" 
If you hold, as Tegmark and Lloyd say, that under the universe are programs, 
then Boltzmann and Nietzsche  will likely re-exist, or maybe already re-exist 
somewhere else, or both. The identity issue rears its lovely head once again. 
"Ach du liber Augustine," says Nietzsche, this must be why I am here still?" 
John Hick smiles at Nietzsche, say, "Us replicas must stick together." Elvis 
just sneers onward.  
 
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From: Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>
To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Apr 20, 2015 6:50 am
Subject: Re: Where are they?


 
The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion years may preoccupy 
so seriously to some people that would induce to suicide. Boltzman committed 
suicide in part because his own theories of termodinamical dead of the universe 
more or less.   
   
  
  
Other people are influenced equally hard, but unconsciously by very long term 
perspectives that are beyond his own timespan.  
  
   
  
  
And this tells something very important about the human condition: once day by 
day survival is solved, people need a meaning. that means that he need to live 
in a society with a plan and to work for this plan, which is a kind of 
salvation. This is in the constitution of human beings, induced by evolution if 
you like, but it is there no doubt. suicide means that the person think 
unconsciously that it can not contribute. we are very egoistic in the short 
term, but in the long term we are like ants. this is too fast but I can argue 
in detail about all of this  
 
 
  
  
2015-04-20 0:04 GMT+02:00 LizR    <lizj...@gmail.com>:   
   
    
In my opinion extensive Dysonisation will only occur later in the stelliferous 
era - in the 100 trillion years when the galaxy (and the few others still 
visible in the far distance) glow rose-red from having a population exclusively 
made of stellar remnants and M class dwarfs. At this point some species may 
have made it through the "evolutionary heritage" bottleneck (have conquered the 
desire to consume endlessly and to wipe out rivals, I mean) - plus, it will be 
a lot more obvious that the universe's resources are running low, and 
conservation is in order.     
     
      
      
Riffing...      
     
    
    
     
       
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