Boltzmann will return as a Boltzmann Brain. Nietzsche, screams from the grave, "Ach! the Eternal Return!, but you will not remember your previous existence!" If you hold, as Tegmark and Lloyd say, that under the universe are programs, then Boltzmann and Nietzsche will likely re-exist, or maybe already re-exist somewhere else, or both. The identity issue rears its lovely head once again. "Ach du liber Augustine," says Nietzsche, this must be why I am here still?" John Hick smiles at Nietzsche, say, "Us replicas must stick together." Elvis just sneers onward. -----Original Message----- From: Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, Apr 20, 2015 6:50 am Subject: Re: Where are they?
The amazing thing is how what would happen in 100 trillion years may preoccupy so seriously to some people that would induce to suicide. Boltzman committed suicide in part because his own theories of termodinamical dead of the universe more or less. Other people are influenced equally hard, but unconsciously by very long term perspectives that are beyond his own timespan. And this tells something very important about the human condition: once day by day survival is solved, people need a meaning. that means that he need to live in a society with a plan and to work for this plan, which is a kind of salvation. This is in the constitution of human beings, induced by evolution if you like, but it is there no doubt. suicide means that the person think unconsciously that it can not contribute. we are very egoistic in the short term, but in the long term we are like ants. this is too fast but I can argue in detail about all of this 2015-04-20 0:04 GMT+02:00 LizR <lizj...@gmail.com>: In my opinion extensive Dysonisation will only occur later in the stelliferous era - in the 100 trillion years when the galaxy (and the few others still visible in the far distance) glow rose-red from having a population exclusively made of stellar remnants and M class dwarfs. At this point some species may have made it through the "evolutionary heritage" bottleneck (have conquered the desire to consume endlessly and to wipe out rivals, I mean) - plus, it will be a lot more obvious that the universe's resources are running low, and conservation is in order. Riffing... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.