On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:32 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> > On 04 May 2015, at 10:23, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:08 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 4 May 2015 at 06:45, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Of course believing in the supernatural is absurd -- what does that even >>> mean? If, for example, ghosts were real, then this would just mean that >>> current scientific theories are incomplete or wrong. >>> >>> That would just mean the terminology isn't very good. It would be more >> accurate to say you do (or don't) believe in ghosts. >> > > That's a good point. > Of course the non-materialist deals with ontological problems. Do entities > perceived under the influence of psychoactive drugs exist in some sense? > > > > At Iridia, there has been a talk and demo of Virtual Reality. I have been > very often disappointed, but this time I have been quite impressed. They > have solved the main problems, and the immersion feeling was quite realist, > in all direction where you looked, without any screen border, and perfect > real time synchronization for any type of the move of your head or eyes. > William Gibson felt the same :) https://twitter.com/perrychen/status/579058927511334912 "They did it!", said the guy who has been writing and dreaming about this stuff for decades. > In one demo there was a creature, was it real? Those things are relatively > real. Like in personal nocturnal dream, or when reading a novel, and with > comp, like with physicalism, there is a physical reality, which is a priori > different from a machine (as it is a sum of the work of all machine) > "acting" below our substitution level. In arithmetic, one virtual reality > is less virtual than all the others, as it has the "correct" comp bottom. > That define a notion of "physically real", and most entities perceived in > inebriated state are very often not physically real. But they might still > be images of important routine operating in the brain of a large class of > possible subject, and be entities living on alternate reality planes, but > still there by Turing-Universal + FPI. > > Virtual reality might help people for the thought experiences, and many > (new) things. > > But in the long run, we have to be careful, as the poor might one day not > afford visiting a non virtual reality. If we don't think a bit, we might > end up all in brains in vats. > Some economists are already working on this, namely Robin Hanson. He used to be at the center of a very lively discussion about these topics. Maybe you'd like to take a look at his blog when you have time: http://www.overcomingbias.com/ He's an interesting guy, in any case. Telmo. > > Bruno > > > > > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
