Yes I see. For me, it's a struggle to get the "real world" to conform, nicely, to religious texts My experience of such texts and of life is that there is a divergence between the world we inhabit and what the old guys of the past wrote. As far as i am concerned, human beings (as horribly flawed as we are) come first, because we are weak, we are foolish, we are unreasonable, we are unintelligent, and rage full. I have seen the deeply religious of this world and they are quite good at hiding their flaws to the world, out of not only fear of the almighty, but out or bringing shame, brought to themselves and their group. We are the one's that require help, not God, yet, for inscrutable reasons He decline help.
This indicates that this big mind, will not, or cannot involve himself, again, inscrutable. Rather than beat up Mr. God, I would say we adjust our views religiously. If you want to study a physics speculation as delirious as any mad, religion, I would direct you to the Boltzmann Brains, named after 19th century thermodynamist, Ludwig Boltzmann. Fear not, Boltzmann was not a Yahhoodi, but a German, german. Anyway, he postulated that the cosmos needed an 'Observer' of some kind to operate. Moreover, that the observer(s) could be intelligent, and non-human, and having its own false memories of life, and also hyper-intelligent. Back in 2007, Lenny Susskind (yahoodi) came up with a paper called, The Census Taker's Hat, which revisited Boltzmann's thermodynamics, and more or less supported these contentions. Assuming that such things as boltzmann brains exist (some doubt) some have seen BB's as potentially, Jinn's, or Angels, or even God. Interesting speculation, and I ask, how does knowing this help us poor little humans? Ah! For more madness- https://plus.maths.org/content/dreaming-dream -----Original Message----- From: Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, Jun 9, 2015 10:40 am Subject: Re: Quran Audio I suppose you can call it that :) People on this list have different assumptions, prejudices, misgivings, queries and (dis)interest level in Islam and the practice of Muslims. Just presenting the original document for any who might want to check for themselves. Actually I was a bit hesitant sharing but then I thought that some will object anyway. Samiya On 09-Jun-2015, at 6:56 pm, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: Doing Dawa? Interesting. -----Original Message----- From: Samiya Illias < samiyaill...@gmail.com> To: everything-list < everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Mon, Jun 8, 2015 10:09 pm Subject: Quran Audio A good resource for listening to Quran Recitation in Arabic plus Translation for anyone interested in listening to he Quran: http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/ Samiya -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.