On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 6:50 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Yes I see. For me, it's a struggle to get the "real world" to conform, > nicely, to religious texts My experience of such texts and of life is that > there is a divergence between the world we inhabit and what the old guys of > the past wrote. As far as i am concerned, human beings (as horribly flawed > as we are) come first, because we are weak, we are foolish, we are > unreasonable, we are unintelligent, and rage full. I have seen the deeply > religious of this world and they are quite good at hiding their flaws to > the world, out of not only fear of the almighty, but out or bringing shame, > brought to themselves and their group. We are the one's that require help, > not God, yet, for inscrutable reasons He decline help. According to my understanding, God is continuously offering to help, while most of us stubbornly decline help. God will not impose faith and good deeds on us, we have to WILL faith and choose to be guided to the right course of action. > > This indicates that this big mind, will not, or cannot involve himself, > again, inscrutable. Rather than beat up Mr. God, I would say we adjust our > views religiously. If you want to study a physics speculation as delirious > as any mad, religion, I would direct you to the Boltzmann Brains, named > after 19th century thermodynamist, Ludwig Boltzmann. Fear not, Boltzmann > was not a Yahhoodi, but a German, german. Why would I fear a 'Yahhoodi'? Jews are monotheists like Muslims, and the Quran is full of examples from Jewish history, to remind them that this is a continuation of the same message, and to guide us, lest we make the same errors that they did. Moreover, the Quran also speaks highly of the Jews who truly believe. I suppose the same is true for Muslims and people of other religions. God knows the hearts of all, and is best able to appreciate. > Anyway, he postulated that the cosmos needed an 'Observer' of some kind to > operate. Moreover, that the observer(s) could be intelligent, and > non-human, and having its own false memories of life, and also > hyper-intelligent. Back in 2007, Lenny Susskind (yahoodi) came up with a > paper called, The Census Taker's Hat, which revisited Boltzmann's > thermodynamics, and more or less supported these contentions. > Interesting. I'll try to look it up later today. > > Assuming that such things as boltzmann brains exist (some doubt) some have > seen BB's as potentially, Jinn's, or Angels, or even God. Interesting > speculation, and I ask, how does knowing this help us poor little humans? > Ah! > I suppose it helps us realise that there is much, much more to the larger picture than we humans can perceive, and thus we do need to seek guidance intelligently. Its humbling, and humbling before the One True God liberates us from humbling before all others. That is, I think, the most crucial role of the scriptures! Samiya > > For more madness- > https://plus.maths.org/content/dreaming-dream > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tue, Jun 9, 2015 10:40 am > Subject: Re: Quran Audio > > I suppose you can call it that :) > People on this list have different assumptions, prejudices, misgivings, > queries and (dis)interest level in Islam and the practice of Muslims. Just > presenting the original document for any who might want to check for > themselves. > Actually I was a bit hesitant sharing but then I thought that some will > object anyway. > > Samiya > > On 09-Jun-2015, at 6:56 pm, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Doing Dawa? Interesting. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Samiya Illias < samiyaill...@gmail.com> > To: everything-list < everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Mon, Jun 8, 2015 10:09 pm > Subject: Quran Audio > > A good resource for listening to Quran Recitation in Arabic plus > Translation for anyone interested in listening to he Quran: > http://www.quranexplorer.com/quran/ > > Samiya > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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