On 06 Oct 2015, at 13:52, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On 6/10/2015 8:15 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 04 Oct 2015, at 23:40, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On 5/10/2015 2:49 am, John Clark wrote:
On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Brent Meeker
<meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> But you're assuming the copy is in an evironment
equivalent this world.
If the universe is infinite and not just huge then a finite
distance away there IS a Bruce Kellet in a world with a radius
of 13.8 billion light years identical to the Bruce Kellet in our
world. In fact there are a infinite number of them.
> Suppose this Bruce Kellet copy were in a world just like
this EXCEPT that everybody in his world knew him as John Clark?
If the universe is infinite and not just huge then a finite
distance away there IS a person identical to our Bruce
Kellet in every way EXCEPT he's named John Clark not Bruce
Kellet . In fact there are a infinite number of them.
Prove it! And I mean *prove*, not just wave your hands a bit.
A proof is simple if you are willing to bet that you are not
actually infinite, although John Clark would not accept it, but
this is only by ignorance of definition. I mean, it is provable
that an infinity of copy of you are emulated correctly by the
arithmetical reality, which is already assumed in all theory on a
possible physical reality.
Yes. I didn't expect that you could prove it either. And it has
nothing to do with whether I am actually infinite or not.
It has to do with you being Turing emulable or not. Once you are you
cannot use ontologically prior matter to explain the conscious
appearance of matter. So you have to explain matter from machine's
psychology or theology.
You do not seem to understand that physical theory is not physics,
nor yet the physical world. What you can prove in arithmetic still
has to be demonstrated to be applicable to the physical world. And
this you singularly fail to do.
I explain the problem. But I did solve the propositional parts of it.
I derived quantum logics at the place needed to proceed. You need to
study the second part of the sane04 paper, which *is* the thesis.
The theory delineates the quanta and the qualia, which no current
physical theory do, also.
Bruno
Bruce
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