On 10 Jun 2016, at 03:02, Bruce Kellett wrote:

On 10/06/2016 1:41 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 09 Jun 2016, at 01:28, Bruce Kellett wrote:
In other words, FPI is just the statement that Alice and Bob have to look to find out which of the (+,+'), (+,-'), (-,+'), or (-,-') worlds they are in. I don't think that actually adds anything significant to the discussion.

That eliminates the physical spooky action at a distance which are necessarily there in QM+collapse.

You have yet to prove that -- assertion is not proof.

By defining world by "closed for interaction", locality follows from linearity. There are 1p statistical interference, but Bell's inequality violation is accounted without FTL, which is not the case with collapse, or Bohmian particules. I gave the proof with others, and eventually you admitted that there was no real action at a distance. But with one world, those are real action at a distance. So I think the point has been made.





That adds nothing, indeed. That shows only that the paradoxes came only from the axioms some have added to fit their philosophical prejudices.

So you add axioms to suit your philosophical prejudices just as others do -- how does that make your position any better than that of others?


No. I subtract axioms.

Bohr's axioms: SWE + COLLAPSE + number (add,mult) (+ unintelligible theory of mind)

Everett's axioms SWE + Number (add,mult). (+ mechanist theory of mind)

Your servitor's axioms: Number(add,mult). (+ mechanist theory of mind)

And I don't pretend that is true, only that digital mechanism makes this necessary and testable (modulo the usual "malin génies").

Bruno


Bruno





Bruce

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