On 15 Oct 2016, at 14:32, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
John,
No, I do not know what life is. I guess, nobody does.
From what I have seen recently, I like:
"Life is a pure religious concept, based on delusion that there is
something in an organism that makes it alive."
That's consciousness, and if that is an illusion then everything is.
Such a "definition" of life is eliminative materialism.
With computationamism the material composing the organism can itself
be described by a delusion of a universal person brought by an
infinity of universal machine. We can say then that Matter is a pure
religious concept based on the universal number delusion that there is
something made up of something when there might plausibly be only a
statistics on number's (sharable) dreams.
Bruno
Evgenii
Am 14.10.2016 um 21:08 schrieb John Mikes:
Evgenii,
do you have some idea about "LIFE", not the '*Game *of it'? Are
there disclaimers that may lead to a STATE - callable 'life'? I would
not rely entirely on the biology, life may be much more and not
quite(?) moelcularly bound. How is 'mentality' involved? Changes???
(and I mean: self induced ones!) We have a very limited image of
Mother Nature. Is 'life' more, or less than our limited knowledge of
'nature'? Please do not forget: I am an agnostic and believe in many
many facets of the Entirety we know nothing about, yet supposedly
exist beyond our world. Is a 'self-induced change' L I F E ? How
induced?
The question is exciting, I would learn more about it.
John Mikes
On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Evgenii Rudnyi <use...@rudnyi.ru>
wrote:
I have listened to Sean Carroll's Big Picture. His world view is
actually similar to the Game of Life, well, the rules are a bit
more complicated. Below is the link to the equation that he
proposes.
Carroll claims that his equation describes human beings as well. He
takes a compatibilist position in respect to free will: free will
is compatible with the determinism. At the same time, he says that
his equation is the very strong intellectual achievement of the
mankind.
I thought that it could be possible to invent some sort of the Game
of Life where during the system evolution one gets the rule of the
game printed on the screen. In my view, this should be somewhat
analogous to what Carroll says. Well, it is hard to say in what
form the rules of the game should appear, but this after all gives
some freedom to invent such a game.
I should mention that I mean nothing fancy. "Explaining" is meant
in pure epiphenomenal fashion: an equation spontaneously appeared
on a sheet of paper, nothing else.
What do you think? Could it be possible to invent a self-explaining
Game of Life in that sense?
Evgenii
P.S. Carroll's Game of Life:
http://www.preposterousuniverse.com/blog/2013/01/04/the-
world-of-everyday-experience-in-one-equation/
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