On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 2:10 PM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>> >> >> "Free Will" is the inability to always predict what you will do before >> you do it even if the environment is predictable. By this definition your >> computer has free will because when you ask it to multiply 96854 by 79446 >> it doesn't know what answer it will tell you until it does so, and it will >> only do so when it finishes the calculation. > > > > > That is correct. > Then "free will" is a pretty trivial attribute, even my $9 hand calculator has it > >> >>T >> hen if we have free will our senses are redundant as they provide useless >> information about things outside ourselves which has nothing to do with how >> we behave. > > > > > Of course not, as our self is determined by itself together with previous > sense experience recorded. > Then a windup toy car has free will , where it will go is determined by its internal state (how much the spring is wound up) and by the number and nature of obstructions in the external environment. An electron has free will too, where it will go is determent by its internal charge and by external electric and magnetic fields. By that definition I can't think of anything that doesn't have this thing you call "free will", and that makes the concept completely useless. > > Non-causal-ness is not a notion clear to me, because > [...] > Did you just say "because"? Not clear to you? You're using the notion of causal-ness right now! John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
