So which is the Boss, John, Mathematics, somehow at the 'base; of the universe, or is physics the top dog from the 1st split second? This seems to break down much discussion here, with this question.
-----Original Message----- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, May 18, 2017 2:34 pm Subject: Re: Movie argument On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 4:56 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> And John Clark could have told them both that long long ago except for the fact that before the duplication the W man and the M man did not exist. > If this suppresses the first person indeterminacy in Helsinki, then it suppress the coin indeterminacy too. No it does not. After the coin toss experiment is over the laws of physics forbid anyone from disputing how it turned out, but in your thought experiment not only does the laws of physics allow somebody to dispute the outcome they demand it. John K Clark Before the coin side is revealed, the guy who will get the result later does not exist too. Bruno > You make my point again. Yes, if your point is not all ASCII sequences have a coherent meaning. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
