On 22 Nov 2017, at 04:09, John Clark wrote:

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au > wrote:

​> ​it seems that for Maudlin MWi is essentially incoherent because it cannot come to grips with a sensible account of probabilities. All attempts to derive probabilities and the Born rule in MWI have been shown to be circular

But Copenhagen is no better at deriving the Born Rule​ nor is any other quantum interpretation​ although Gleason's Theorem says that if the quantum wave function is related to probability then​ the​ square of the absolute value​ is the only one that doesn't produce contradictions. So if you're going to have a probability rule involving the wave function its got to be the Born Rule, the function cubed or anything else just won't do. But the wave function itself is 100% deterministic so why involve probability at all?

By invoking the first person indeterminacy ...



I don't have a very good answer to that nor does anybody else​,​ but the Many Worlds people have made a better stab at it than most:

https://arxiv.org/abs/1405.7577

Like this paper illustrate rather well, assuming the Wave.

If we assume Digital Mechanism in cognitive science, the wave itself must be retrieved from the logic of computations (sigma_sentences). The logic of yes/no computations provides the quantization necessary for that, and this confirms the existence of a very general form of Gleason theorem operating in (very elementary) Arithmetic.

Bruno



​ John K Clark​






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