On Thursday, March 14, 2019 at 7:54:49 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 3:40 AM Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > >> *> We may even have robots that can sit and talk with us about current >> events, know everything in Wikipedia, etc. How "creative" they will be is >> an open question. * >> > > I don't think it's a open question at all. I can state without > reservation that regardless of how intelligent computers become they will > *never* be creative because the word "creative" now means whatever > computers aren't good at. Yet. And thus due to Moore's Law and improved > programing the meaning of the word constantly changes. What was creative > yesterday isn't creative today. > > *> On mathematics: Of course mathematics changes, because it is a type of >> language, and languages change.* >> > > If mathematics is just a language (as I think it is) then it can not be > used to construct things, in particular it can't, by itself without the use > of matter, construct a Turing Machine as Bruno claims it can. English is > also a language but an English word has no meaning without an English > speaker with a physical brain to hear it. > > John K Clark >
There is some AI art that sells at galleries https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/shortcuts/2018/oct/26/call-that-art-can-a-computer-be-a-painter but that's about it I've seen. Turing machines in theoretical computing/math books are all fictional things, of course. All actual computers are made of matter. (Technically the fictional ones are too: Printed ink glyphs on paper.) -pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
