> On 26 Apr 2019, at 09:03, cloudver...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 7:28:52 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > On 4/25/2019 1:42 PM, cloud...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote: > > The one-and-only code of nature is a hidden entity. We may > > "approximate" it with our own code (like the Marcolli code above), but > > unless there is some sort of unforeseen revolution coming, that's the > > way things will always be. > > Right.?? But the approximation is at the level of predictions > approximating observable facts.?? At the level of ontology our theory can > be completely off. > > Brent > > But off of what? > > What specific ontological entity or entities of any science in 2019 does one > claim as final - i.e., that ontology is the "true" one?
Any Turing universal machine will do the work. Physics (and theology) is the same, independent of the choice of the initial theory, provided it is Turing universal. I have already given three equivalent theories. It also should not admit axiom of infinity, nor the induction axioms (I have still some doubt here). > > If none, should we expect that in some future year we will find some final > ontology? With mechanism, the combinators are enough, or the natural numbers, or the lambda expression. > > Or: If it is a final ontology, we found it by "luck", and we don't know if > it's final even if it is. We can never know, but if we *assume* mechanism, they we can know what I say above, relatively to the mechanist assumption. It is more a belief than a knowledge, but in science there is only belief, and only God (Truth) “knows” if that is knowledge or belief. Science, especially theology, is necessarily modest, when we assume mechanism. Bruno > > - pt > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
