> On 15 Jun 2019, at 18:00, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 15, 2019 at 8:53:34 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 5:32 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > >> it is quite clear that serious metaphysics is not very serious. Bozo > >> metaphysics would be a better term. > > > That shows how much you take metaphysics seriously. > > I give metaphysics all the respect it deserves. > > The fact is that you seem to assume Mechanism and Materialism, and that is > inconsistent. > > If I knew what you mean by Mechanism and Materialism I'd know if I assume > them or not, > John K Clark > > > > Victor Stenger wrote in his Scientific American essay of how physicists are > "doing" metaphysics even if they don't realize it. > > What Victor Stenger called "platonism": Physicists find some model that > "works". And then they make make truth statements in the terminology of the > vocabulary (e.g. "quantum states") of that model which claims the actual > reality (existence) of entities those terms refer to. > > > But while I know what Turing Machines are, I still don't know what > "Mechanism"s are.
John Clark just use ‘a mechanism” where I use “a machine”. I keep the word “mechanism” for the YD + CT assumption/theory/hypothesis. It is my working hypothesis. Bruno > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/73e54bb9-7d31-4abe-9c67-a62ecee5dc93%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/73e54bb9-7d31-4abe-9c67-a62ecee5dc93%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/B9C7C89A-0A48-4694-AEC3-8B00C31B5AE2%40ulb.ac.be.
