On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 12:07, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> On 7/22/2019 6:19 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>
> You might wish to maintain this theory, but you, yourself, have directly
>> contradicted it by saying that our sense of self depends on the inputs to
>> the brain. The qualification "directly" adds nothing but obfuscation.
>>
>
> The inputs to the brain affect the brain state, and our experiences depend
> on the brain state. If a particular brain state could be implemented in the
> absence of inputs, the experience would be the same as if the inputs were
> there. Do you disagree with this?
>
>
> I disagree with it.  Experiences are not states, they're processes and the
> processes include the inputs.  Probably you can have experiences without
> sensory input, although as I recall when sensory deprivation research was
> popular it was found that after a half-hour or less one's thoughts tended
> to enter a closed loop.
>

Hallucinations are experiences in the absence of the usual input.
Hallucinations can be very realistic, which is one reason why schizophrenia
is such a terrible illness.

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Stathis Papaioannou

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