On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:22 AM Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, August 9, 2019, Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 8:59 PM Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> What role do you see decoherence playing in consciousness? In other >>> words, could you explain why shedding IR photons into an external >>> environment necessary for the mind to be conscious? >>> >> >> Consciousness is a classical phenomenon since the brain is a classical >> object (not in a state of quantum coherence). So decoherence, and the >> emergence of the classical from the quantum, is essential for >> consciousness. Just as to be conscious is to be conscious of something, >> such as the external world. >> >> > You appear to be extrapolating a causation from the appearance of a > correlation: > "The brain is classical, and the brain is conscious, therefore all > consciousness must be classical." > > The conclusion doesn't follow from the premise. > Show me consciousness that does not involve decohered classical matter, such as in a brain. > Also, is a brain really conscious of the external world, or is it > conscious of it's internal states? The redness of a red apple does not > exist physically. Redness is an invention of the brain, which cannot be > found in the external world of colorless particles. > But the physical world does contain photons of various wavelengths -- which correspond to different colours. Correlation does not necessarily indicate causation, but scientific study does reveal the underlying relations between things. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLQWMX%3D5YLZyifHO75YqbTSnWY20ZXXQnX1ZF_5qvbryvg%40mail.gmail.com.
