On Wednesday, August 28, 2019 at 10:46:38 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 27 Aug 2019, at 13:31, John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > > yet again to who knows what because I still say "yes" to the digital > doctor. That's why I never bothered to learn Brunospeak, > > > > That is a trolling technic. > > Why do you keep using the argument of those who want to show that they > have no argument? > > You are the one “religious” here. You are the one talking like if you do > have found evidence from primary matter, or for physicalism. But you have > not show them, and you get trapped by the fact you says yes to a digitalist > doctor. > > I understand your appeal to a mystical notion of computation, but it has > to be different from “emulating a universal machine” to provide a role for > some primary matter. Maybe some universal number will play key role in the > laws of the machine’s observable, but to get the quanta without eliminating > the qualia, we have to extract that number, if it exists, by the modal > variants I described here and in my papers. > > Bruno > > >
You realize that if Fictionalism is true https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/fictionalism-mathematics/ (and there is no demonstrable evidence against it), then *There are no models of arithmetic consisting of numbers.* because numbers do not exist in the first place). @philipthrift -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/677096f2-7d6b-4141-a93c-2bdb4b3d67cc%40googlegroups.com.