> On 25 Sep 2019, at 09:55, Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 1:25:58 AM UTC-5, stathisp wrote: > > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 at 08:16, Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > Many Worlds leads Sean Carroll to speculate about the morality of duplicated > selves when they bach off into other worlds. > > Sean Carroll > @seanmcarroll > https://twitter.com/seanmcarroll/status/1176617631408775168 > <https://twitter.com/seanmcarroll/status/1176617631408775168> > > Congressional votes do not *cause* the wave function to branch, but unlikely > quantum events can bring into existence branches where classically unlikely > outcomes have occurred. A nucleus might decay in the right Representative's > brain at just the right time, etc. > > He asks: > > "If You Existed in Multiple Universes, How Would You Act In This One?" > > > https://lithub.com/if-you-existed-in-multiple-universes-how-would-you-act-in-this-one/ > > <https://lithub.com/if-you-existed-in-multiple-universes-how-would-you-act-in-this-one/> > (From Something Deeply Hidden: Quantum Worlds and the Emergence of Spacetime > by Sean Carroll) > > > But he gives away the game here: > > "To each individual on some branch of the wave function, life goes on just as > if they lived in a single world with truly stochastic quantum events." > > Maybe there's a Sean Carroll branch that loves stochasticity. > > Many Worlds (a religion, or quasi-religion, but not science) is fundamentally > an anti-probabilities superstition. And anti-materialist as well. Those who > think we are pure information - platotonist bits - have no problem with the > idea of multiple copies of things here and now being made, because there is > no new material needed. > > (The religious aspect of Many Worlds has been made apparent with the > promotion - Carroll's own tweets, for example - of the book.) > > Pro-deterministic is not anti-probability. Also, pro-materialistic is no less > “religious” than anti-materialistic, since there is no way to know that a > true material world does or does not exist. When it comes to deciding which > interpretation of reality to prefer, one can either use aesthetic > considerations (Occam’s razor) or refuse to engage in discussion. > -- > Stathis Papaioannou > > > > What I know is that materials science taught in universities, applied in > technology companies. > > But nonmaterials "science" is taught in theology schools, and has no > applications.
You are right. And for a millenium; theology needed a cursus in mathematics of four years. The fundamental courses to masteries were Arithmetic, Geometry, Music, Astronomy. Later came Diophantine Algebra, and even the apparition of algorithm and rules. You forget Mathematics. It is also taught at universities and applied in technology companies. The discovery of the computer was a discovery made by mathematicians trying to solve problems in the foundation of Mathematics. The original debate between Aristotle and Plato was always on the fringe of the doubt if mathematics or physics were the fundamental science. Fictionalism, atheism etc. are not doctrines. They are doctrines asserting that another doctrine is forever false, like it could not improve, or admit new interpretation. It is unscientific. You need just to give your theory and the means to evaluate it. I have given my means of evaluation: to recover the prediction on the measurable quanta without throwing consciousness under the rug. Bruno > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/36802602-a2a1-4b8f-96a6-3a289daf0e45%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/36802602-a2a1-4b8f-96a6-3a289daf0e45%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/5F9C9FEC-AA32-4F5E-A035-F74CDDAE8DE2%40ulb.ac.be.
