> On 20 Nov 2019, at 23:52, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2019 at 2:42 PM 'Brent Meeker'  
> <everything-list@googlegroups.com <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> >>> The problem is not how to calculate probabilities, it's what do the 
> >>> probabilities refer to. 
> 
> >> The best betting strategy to follow if you want to win.
> 
> > Right. 
> 
> So you now think it's clear what the probabilities refer to. Me too.
>  
> > They refer to the result of a measurement. 
> 
> A measurement that does not change physical laws so only one set of them is 
> needed.
>  
> > But as you often note in discussing Bruno's Washington/Moscow thought 
> > experiment, in MWI there is no measurement and there is no result...there 
> > are only results.
> 
> There is no way to make a bet within Bruno's idiotic

The insult again. You were just criticising the use of insult, and then you do 
it. 



> thought exparament because there is no way to determine who won and who lost 
> or even nail down exactly what the bet was about,

No less than in the Everett theory.



> but the situation is quite different with the MWI because it's unambiguous 
> what the bet was about and there is no one around to dispute the outcome.

That is not relevant for the prediction on the first person experience, or you 
add magic to computationalism.

You can make the WM thought experience with Robots, or Programs, and the winner 
will be those using the Pascal Triangle correctly. Of course, they are betting 
with people entering in the copy-annihilating box, to get a first person plural 
relative indeterminacy similar (with resect to the bets) to a quantum 
superposition.

Bruno




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