Don's peeps are not in the streets every night doing arson looting. It's all on 
your team. But look at it this way, if the US really does a split, you will get 
to reap the whirlwind in person. 


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From: Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, Sep 28, 2020 4:07 am
Subject: Re: The Handmaid's Tale



On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 12:51:23 AM UTC-6, spudb...@aol.com wrote:
The daily assaults by the democrat's Vanguard of the Proletariat, and we can go 
onto twitter and view these, performed by BLMTifa upon average Americans seems 
to (I am guessing) sewn the election up for Orange Dude. I read the Handmaids 
tale years ago, and looked at the video presentations of the book, and noted 
that the author, Margaret Atwood, and saw the differences in premise. In 
Atwood's book, it was the annihilation of modern civilization that sent the 
world backwards, and that dark age was brought upon by a nuclear war, tween, 
Reagan's American, and the old USSR. The filmed version was changed to reflect 
pollution as the villain, and now the series is to reflect a climate change 
disaster.
 By the way, Bruno, remember, as I know you must all the claims from physicists 
that a nuclear war will ensue if NATO placed Pershing missiles in western 
Europe to counteract the Soviets placing mobile SS-18's & 20's. This threat of 
Nuclear Winter was also served to us, by the single-sided disarmament groups 
(Pro-Soviets). So, we'd not only be incinerated in a nuclear fire but we'd also 
be frozen to death after we were all already dead.Some of these were scientists 
who promoted this, indicating to me, that scientist's political leanings can 
overcome their best analytical capacities.
In the US, the democrats (I used to be a life-long one!) has given themselves 
up to a shared, autocratic form of government (I assert) that is simply a Junta 
composed of street Stalinists, who seem to be funded by Crony Capitalist 
billionaires. It's also, at least here in the States, similar, to their take on 
Climate Change which unlike the EU isn't focusing on Green Hydrogen as a 
replacement energy form (initiated by wind turbines at Sea), and have nothing 
but opposition to say, uranium fission, or natural gas. Nothing will keep their 
cities and states lighted, except wishing thinking on their part. I will always 
take a callous, rationalist, like Orange Dude, over psychotic, idealists, that 
my democrats have become. The true dystopia is not Atwood's HandMaids, but the 
democrat areas, where their fascists run the streets. Portland is still afire...

Democrats as psychotic idealists? I think you're in dire need of emergency 
brain surgery. Can you describe a single police reform the US federal 
government has approved under Trump since Floyd was murdered in plain sight? AG 


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sun, Sep 27, 2020 9:45 am
Subject: Re: The Handmaid's Tale



On 27 Sep 2020, at 00:05, John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com> wrote:
The new US supreme court nominee will be Amy Coney Barrett, and she is just the 
sort of person you would expect, a religious crockpot. She is a member of an 
extreme right wing Catholic cult called "The People of Praise"; they speak in 
tongues, believe in biblical prophecy, and in divine healing. Members of the 
cult swear a lifetime oath of allegiance to one another and are assigned a 
ideology coach called a “head” for men and a “HANDMAID” for women to make sure 
nobody strays from the official dogma. The "heads" and "handmaids" issue orders 
on who to date, who to marry, where to live, whether to take a job, whether to 
buy a home, and how to raise children. Part of the ideology of People of Praise 
is that husbands should give orders to their wives and only men should have 
authority over the family.
During her confirmation hearing in 2017 to be a federal judge Barrett said  "I 
take my faith seriously and I’m a faithful Catholic". In 2013 she said: "I tend 
to agree with those who say that a Justice’s duty is to the Constitution and 
that it is thus more legitimate for her to enforce her best understanding of 
the Constitution rather than a precedent she thinks clearly in conflict with 
it"; and as a judge she approved a Indiana law banning abortions of a deformed 
fetus (although her opinion was later overturned by a higher court and the 
Indiana law ruled unconstitutional). So when she is approved Roe v. Wade Will 
be as dead as a doornail and we're back to the 1950's and coathanger abortions. 
Barrett also criticized Chief Justice Roberts for his opinion that saved 
Obama’s Affordable Care Act; so in the middle of a global pandemic the health 
care coverage of tens of millions of people will be as dead as a doornail too 
when she hears her first case on October 10.
To those who claim Barrett's religious views will not effect her legal opinions 
I will remind you that in 2006 she said  “If you can keep in mind that your 
fundamental purpose in life is not to be a lawyer, but to know, love and serve 
God, you truly will be a different kind of lawyer.”

Amy Coney Barret would also be the youngest justice on the bench, so she could 
be around for many decades.


What does keep me awake at night is that Trump has the Senate, the AG on his 
side, and now even the Supreme Court. 
Even before the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I was not sure how could possibly 
Trump fail to keep power in November. 
Barr exonerated Trump after Mueller Reports (through a big lie) on his 2016 
cheating, and then the Republican Senators acquitted him for his cheating in 
the 2020 election (involving Ukraine). That last one was pitiful, as the 
Republicans did mock all the evidences as being just “second-hand evidences” 
and then when they got the opportunity to listen to the first-hand evidences, 
they dismissed it entirely.
The last remaining hope for democracy (in the US and thus plausibly in the 
whole world) *was* that Trump (who will never say that he lost the election, 
right?) would have been obliged at some point to go to the Courts, and to the 
Supreme Court, and, with Ruth B. Ginsburg, the court could have ruled against 
Trump, but now, it looks there is no hope at all.
Trump has a powerful support from all the international criminals, not 
mentioning his friends Putin, Erdogan, Kim-Youn-Un, and many others.
I have never been a fan of the Leftists (so ignorant, notably on the 
Middle-East situation), but I have not, for one second, believe that Trump has 
the interest of the American people in mind.We have to say that Trump is a 
pretty brilliant con man; he is an expert liar. 
And he will never leave the power. He hates to much the looser to be one, and, 
for him, the difference is between being free and above the law, or going to 
jail. He will do *anything* to not, never, leave the Power.
Amy is extreme right wing conservative, we will see if she will defend her 
faith, or her ideology, like the evangelist who admit Trump is everything 
except a believer, but still vote for him for his promise against abortion, and 
similar, and I suppose she would know that, and introspect herself a little 
bit, and be honest. The Indiana action gives a bit of hope, thanks…
I say this to keep an atom of hope ,and that we are not witnessing the end of 
democracy, and the end of the rules of law, in the US and then everywhere, 
which would lead to a millenium more of obscurantism.
Democracy (like today in the US, Israel and Europa) is basically the only 
progress in the applied human sciences since the closure of Plato Academy. I 
think that if we lose democracy, we will regress far more than up to 1950, I’m 
afraid.
The vote of November in the US is not about left/right, but really between 
democracy/tyranny. 
Tyran never accepts a defavorable election result, and Trump warn us everyday, 
and prepare us, to "a fait accompli” with the outrageous help of his AG (Barr). 
His incapacity to defend the idea of a peaceful transition, in case he loses, 
is an admission. Even in his 2016 campaign, he said already that he will accept 
the result of the vote … if he win.
Bruno





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