On 3/9/2021 3:52 PM, Tomas Pales wrote:


On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 12:29:07 AM UTC+1 Brent wrote:



    On 3/9/2021 3:03 PM, Tomas Pales wrote:
    The law of identity determines what can possibly exist, namely
    that which is identical to itself. But what is the difference
    between a possibly existing object and a "really" existing
    object? I see no difference, and hence all possible objects
    exist, necessarily.

    So everything that does not exist is something that cannot
    possibly exist.  But does that mean in the future or just now.  If
    it means /just now/ then it's a trivial tautology, equivalent to
    "It is what it is." and has no useful content.  But if it means
    now and the future, even confined to the near future, it's false.


When you talk about something you must define it. The temporal position of an object is part of its definition (identity). So when object X can exist at time t, then it must exist at time t. It's trivial, just an example of the law of identity.



    To which someone might say something like: "But there is a red
    car parked in front of my house. Isn't it possible that, at this
    moment, a blue car would be parked there instead? Then the blue
    car would be a possible object that obviously doesn't exist." Um,
    no. A red car can't be blue; that would be a contradiction, a
    violation of the law of identity, and hence impossible. A blue
    car might be parked in front of my house in a different possible
    world but then we are talking about a different world, and not
    really about my house either but rather about a copy of my house
    in that other world - and the fact that you can't see that other
    world is not a proof that it doesn't exist.

    c.f. Russell's teapot.


c.f. Granny's glasses - when she can't find them, they don't exist

The question is what is the difference between a possibly existing object and a "really" existing object? The fact that you don't see something doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

That you can put it's name in a sentence doesn't mean it does exist either. Or even that it's (nomologically) possible.

Brent



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