> On 10 Jul 2021, at 21:48, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
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> On 7/10/2021 2:00 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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>>> On 6 Jul 2021, at 22:07, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
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>>> On 7/6/2021 10:34 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
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>>>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 12:27 PM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List 
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>>>> And you're never going to find a being that behaves intelligently based on 
>>>> information that can be quantum erased.
>>>> 
>>>> You need only a quantum computer with enough qubits.
>>> Can you prove that?  How does this quantum intelligence ever arrive at a 
>>> definite decision?
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> With a quantum brain, you can hack all credit cards, by running shor 
>> algorithm in your head for example.
>> 
>> You argument seems to negate the possibility of quantum speeding. You would 
>> be right if P = NP, or something…
> 
> No.  As I recall even Shor's algorithm has a probabilistic step so that the 
> answer is only correct with high probability, not certainty. 

Right.


> Quantum speedup is possible, just not quantum definiteness.  One you or your 
> QC decides to act that act cannot be a superposition of actions. 

Why? It cannot be a superposition of personal experience, but if I decide in 
Helsinki to go to W or to M with a quantum coin, then, without wave collapse, 
my actions (going to W) and (going to M) will be superposed, despite each of me 
will not been able to fell it, for obvious mechanical reason.



> And the decoherence is not just FAPP, it is  inherent in the loss of 
> information across the Hubble boundary.

But the informations does not disappear. It becomes relatively inaccessible, 
only.

Bruno





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