On 4/11/2022 12:16 AM, smitra wrote:
On 11-04-2022 08:26, Bruce Kellett wrote:
On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 4:12 PM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:

On 10-04-2022 06:06, Bruce Kellett wrote:

You will have to start providing textual evidence from the writing
of
Jon Bell himself for some of the more outrageous claims that you
are
making.

Besides, MWI is the epitome of a deterministic theory!


I've sited the algebra of these derivations before, they make it
clear
that it doesn't apply to QM in general.

I don't recall you ever quoting John Bell. You cite secondary sources,
but they often have their own agendas.


What matters is the math. The derivations only involve simple clear-cut algebra.

Bell's theorem shows that QM cannot have a deterministic completion.
This is a theorem about QM, so the claim that Bell's theorem does not
apply to QM is just absurd.

Bell's theorem shows that local deterministic theories make predictions incompatible with those of QM. The math about the bounds on correlations applies to a class of local deterministic theories, not to QM nor the MWI of QM.

But other places you assert that MWI is deterministic and local???

Brent

So, when it is shown that local deterministic theores are not compatible with QM then that leaves open the possibility that you can have a deterministic theory that's non-local. However because the MwI is not in the class of such deterministic theories, one cannot conclude that MWI is non-local. Indeed that would be impossible, because MWI is a manifestly local theory by construction.

Saibal

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