Ah, Bohminan pilot wave mechanics. It's probably just part of the Root Kit of the universe? You know, as Wigner's Friend chatted in Mandarin through the slot in Searle's Room, to Schrodinger's Cat, "I knew instantly what you were thinking" This bon mot, rolled em in the aisles in the faculty lounge at Princeton U. or was it Teaneck?
-----Original Message----- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, Apr 19, 2022 6:42 am Subject: Re: aiming to complete Everett's derivation of the Born Rule On Mon, Apr 18, 2022 at 2:17 PM Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com> wrote: > the Pilot Wave theory assumes each particle has a definite position and > momentum. That's true but unlike Many Worlds Pilot Wave theory is non-local, it postulates there is a mysterious force of some sort that is undiminished by distance in which two particles billions of light years apart can INSTANTLY affect each other without affecting anything in between. It seems to me if that were the case then we'd have to know everything before we could know anything, and that does not conform with observation because although we don't know everything we do know some things. If the universe was really non-local we couldn't even make approximate predictions regardless of if things were deterministic or not. Copenhagen assumes a particle has NO position and momentum if it has not been measured. Pilot Wave theory assumes a particle has ONE position and momentum if it has not been measured. Many Worlds assumes Schrodinger's equation means what it says so a particle has EVERY position and momentum the equation allows regardless of if it has been measured or not. > It doesn't violate the HUP because the HUP simply limits what we can measure. Then you should like Many Worlds because it says everything happens because of Schrodinger's equation, and Schrodinger's equation is 100% deterministic. Many Worlds also explains why that, although from the multiverse point of view things are as deterministic as Schrödinger's equation, to any particular observer in one of those worlds there would be a limit to how accurate his predictions can be. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis tpw -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv1BGW3kvTVNUXf0cYRJSmMmLvJW997s-uvpSRFfw_T_KQ%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/123483811.1058510.1650505537110%40mail.yahoo.com.
