On 5/23/2022 6:20 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 8:25:32 PM UTC-6 meeke...@gmail.com wrote:



    On 5/22/2022 7:10 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


    On Sunday, May 22, 2022 at 4:44:37 PM UTC-6 Lawrence Crowell wrote:

        It is amazing the depth of nonsense, rot and trash in this
        thread. This is an indication of how utterly worthless
        religion is when it comes to understanding even the most
        minimal of things.

        There is a basic reason why Putin ordered the invasion of
        Ukraine. He and his cronies have stolen everything they can
        steal. It is similar to the Argentine strongman Gaultier, who
        with his cronies had looted the Argentine economy to the
        bone. So to distract public attention away from their crimes
        Gaultier decided that taking the Falklands from Britain was a
        great idea. A victory of that sort would buoy up his standing
        and ..., yeah it did not work. Putin's invasion of Ukraine
        was meant to do just the same, and the outcome does not look
        too different.

        The fall of the Soviet Union did not displace people in
        charge. All they did was to tear up their communist party
        cards, and the commissars of various industries declared
        themselves capitalists and owners. They became the oligarchs
        of Russia and these gangsters have been plundering Russia
        ever since. The Russian economy has barely muddled along for
        the last 3 decades. Putin is probably the second most wealthy
        man in the world.

        Please folks, knock off the religious rubbish. I see
        absolutely no reason to think there exist any form of
        disembodied conscious agent.


    *I wholeheartedly agree with your points in this post. However,
    on one point you really must accept a huge deficiency. Ask
    yourself how there is anything in the universe that knows
    anything.  AG*

    It evolved.  It turns out that knowing stuff improves the chance
    of being naturally selected to reproduce.


Sure, but what is the origin of the self-reflective function of mind or consciousness? AG

It makes it possible to entertain and deceive others.  Every hear of seduction?

Brent

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