Still even the Christians (cross worshippers?) after the Protestant Reformation 
were able to cut truces (hudna's) and stop the fighting. Your internal battles 
seem too long lived. Even the Protestants and Catholics in Ireland stopped 
killing each other. Having said that the IRA were very lapsed catholics, 
indeed! 


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From: Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com>
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Cc: spudboy...@aol.com; meekerbr...@gmail.com
Sent: Tue, Aug 23, 2022 9:17 am
Subject: Re: Christian Adolf and adolfic Christians [was: Re: What Threshold 
Threat of CO2]

Prophet Muhammed was the Head of State of Medina and the surrounding Muslim 
areas. 
He was succeeded by his close companion Abu Bakr Siddiq as the first Caliph of 
the Muslim State. 
Umar became the second Caliph after him.  
Uthman became the third Caliph after Umar.  
Ali became the fourth Caliph after Uthman.  

All of the above had great mutual respect for each other, and worked for the 
greater good. 

Shias are of the opinion that Ali should have succeeded Prophet Muhammed as the 
first Caliph, as he was his cousin, and married to his daughter Fatima. 

The political gap between Sunnis and Shias became ugly when the Prophet’s 
grandson, Ali and Fatima’s son: Hussain was murdered at Karbala, Iraq. The 
shias mourn that tragedy to this day. 

Mostly, Sunnis and Shias live in peace in the same neighbourhoods, sometimes 
even married to a person from the other sect. 

Political exploitation and terrorist activities create law and order 
situations. It’s not the religion to blame, but the political situation and the 
people who create sectarian hatred and violence. 

> On 23-Aug-2022, at 5:37 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Neither group can explain why their religion even needed a new leader if back 
> then Mohammed had already revealed everything anybody would need to know in 
> the Quran.

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