For practical purposes you can use whatever model works. We are not talking here about practicality, but about the nature of reality. Furthermore, even if for convenience you use some model that works, you have to keep in mind at all times that only because that model works in a specific situation, this gives you zero guarantees that it will work on another situation. You try to talk about the universe using a model that only works locally on the solar system. Of course more likely than not it will not work on the universe. So then why waste time ? Is like arguing to reach the Moon on an airplane just because airplanes work so well around the Earth. But the moment you leave Earth, the conditions that made that airplane work around Earth are no longer present. What guarantees you that whatever makes the planets revolve around the Sun is still applicable at the scale of the universe ?
Also, regarding consciousnesses, I hope you understand that is not their wishes directly that move the planets. Those consciousnesses are just minding their own businesses in their own internal realities. They don't know anything about planets. "Planets" is a symbol that YOUR consciousness invents as a best guess in order to account for whatever those other consciousnesses are doing. Is similar with money. You pay 5$ for a kilo of tomatoes, but those 5$ are just a symbol in your consciousness that hides the complexities of the interactions of humans and animals consciousnesses on planet Earth. Behind those 5$ are consciousnesses living all kinds of dramas and tragedies and loves and whatever. But you are totally oblivious to all that. You just have the quale of 5$ to free you from all that unnecessary burden towards achieving your own goals. And of course, you buying those tomatoes, you put your own stamp on the global consciousnesses interactions and modify them a tiny bit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/af5effe1-a143-4593-8b1e-26d562b9ccf4n%40googlegroups.com.