On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 12:08:24 PM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:

On Sat, Feb 8, 2025 at 9:23 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

> If we run the clock backward in time, the universe becomes progressively 
denser as the average distance between galaxies decreases. So if it becomes 
a BH, it seems highly unlikely it started out infinite in spatial extent, 
which is what you and Brent conjectured.


*It doesn't become a black hole of the universe is infinite. Equations for 
the formation of a black hole assume that there is no significant amount of 
matter outside the event horizon.  *

  *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*


You agreed that since the universe has a finite age, if it's infinite in 
spatial extent, that would necessarily have occurred at its origin. But 
although Penrose's theorem suggests it started as a BH, we can be relieved 
of that illusion based on our extensive knowledge of the interior and 
behavior of BH's. AG 


eyw


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