Universe doesn't exist. "Universe" is just an idea in consciousness.
On Sunday, 9 February 2025 at 08:56:22 UTC+2 Alan Grayson wrote: > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:05:05 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: > > On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 4:19:30 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: > > I never conjectured it was originally a black hole. > > > And neither did I claim you conjectured as such. Rather, you asserted that > the universe could have begun as spatially infinite (if, as I claimed, it > couldn't have become spatially infinite if it has a finite age). AG > > > Models of the origin of the universe, like FLRW, have the nascent universe > at extremely high temperature, uniform, and expanding very rapidly, > > > So it must have begun as spatially very small, or perhaps having zero > volume? AG > > > Brent > > > I think I am on fairly sound ground to claim the universe began as a BH, > referencing the Penrose-Hawking Singularity theorem. > > "The *Hawking singularity theorem* is based on the Penrose theorem and it > is interpreted as a gravitational singularity > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity> in the Big Bang > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang> situation." > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose%E2%80%93Hawking_singularity_theorems > > > AG > > On 2/8/2025 6:23 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > If we run the clock backward in time, the universe becomes progressively > denser as the average distance between galaxies decreases. So if it becomes > a BH, it seems highly unlikely it started out infinite in spatial extent, > which is what you and Brent conjectured. AG > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/28962295-2eb3-4b85-a5c5-76dee1f9259cn%40googlegroups.com.
